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  3. Why ever would you do that?!?! Let's get all positions to have at least 2 nominees so there's a vote. I like votes, votes are good. I like votes, votes are good.
  4. I nominate myself for Councilor of activities. I think I've been doing decently. I will retract my nomination should someone else run.
  5. The terms for the current GC are expiring -- I'm actually a little off on timing for this thread. (Oops.) That's why the nomination period isn't quite perfect. Don't wanna forget, though. Please nominate candidates here. Positions are the Councilor of Activities, Councilor of Information, Councilor of External Affairs, and Comrade WA Delegate. Please see this thread for a more complete description of the roles, if you are interested in running. If you are nominated by someone else, you must accept the nomination by posting your acceptance here for it to be valid.
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  7. The Red Fleet Intelligence Directorate The Intelligence Directorate of The Red Fleet has compiled this report to provide a public timeline of events leading up to and following The Red Fleet’s actions, in cooperation with our long-standing allies in The MT Army, to secure Genesis Defense Project (“GDP”). All times given are US Eastern. On the evening of Sunday, February 25, 2018, a member of GDP using the nation Prozackistan unilaterally removed a caretaker nation owned by Vippertooth33 (“Vippertooth”, “Vipp”) of The MT Army from National Socialist League (“NSL”). In doing so, an alarm was raised in The Red Fleet’s control room. In the hours that followed, nations owned by Vippertooth were unilaterally removed from Nazi Deutschland Axis, The NSIA, Federation of God, and GDP after years of residency in those regions. Nine minutes following the ejection of Vipp’s nation from NSL, The Red Fleet reached out to Vippertooth to alert him. Vipp confirmed on the morning of Monday, February 26, 2018, that the GDP member involved was Workers Resistance (“WR”) and said that he would check for a telegram from WR. An hour later, Vipp sent a telegram to Workers Resistance, Phuture Musick, and Tachanka—GDP member nations—to ask for an explanation. No explanation was given, and instead Phuture Musick replied, “Nothing personal dude. I’m just cashing in my backpay.” Further attempts to by Vippertooth and Fleet Admiral @Caelapes to gather an explanation from GDP members were spurned, with no intelligible answers given to questions asked. On the afternoon of February 26, alarms were raised in The Red Fleet’s control room by the movement of WA nations into Genesis Defense Project. 21 hours had passed since the ejection (still with no explanation) of Vipp’s nation from NSL. In investigating the alarm, Caelapes noticed that Vippertooth’s nation in GDP, GDP33, had been removed eighteen hours prior but retained RO powers. Huey P. Newton Squadron Admiral @Proletaire asked if the movement was a coup attempt and suggested that The Red Fleet intervene. @Caelapes replied that the nations moving in looked like GDP members and that the only way to intervene would be for Vipp to temporarily remove the password from GDP, allowing Fleet sailors to enter the region, opining that such an action “would be really bad.” Vippertooth joined the conversation, confirmed that the nations involved were GDP members, and suggested that intervention in GDP was necessary. The members of The Red Fleet Admiralty Board who were present agreed with this course of action and sent an urgent call to arms to Fleet sailors. Four sailors of The Red Fleet responded to the muster: Fleet Admiral Caelapes, Squadron Admiral Proletaire, and Petty Officers @Timchiland and @Arbitrary Humans. Vippertooth’s regional officer nation brought down the password, and the four sailors entered GDP and secured the WA Delegate seat during major update after midnight on Tuesday, February 27. Less than three minutes later, Vippertooth re-applied a hidden password to keep the region safe. Beyond dismissing potentially traitorous Regional Officers, whose motives could not be determined due to the refusal of GDP members to communicate meaningfully with either Red Fleet sailors or MT Army soldiers, no changes were made to the region “Genesis Defense Project” while it was under the guardianship of The Red Fleet and The MT Army. For this act of defense in the wake of attacks against The MT Army, The Red Fleet’s sailors were referred to by GDP members as “Mosley’s goons”—a reference both to the former NationStates identity of Caelapes, “Misley”, and to British fascist Oswald Mosley—and as “Vipp’s SS,” a reference to the Nazi paramilitary. During major update after midnight on Wednesday, February 28, Proletaire and Timchiland deployed alongside Vippertooth to re-secure The NSIA. At major update, Proletaire was elected WA Delegate; the Delegate office transferred to Vipp at minor update. The Red Fleet and The MT Army were joined by Enadian Unified Forces, The Grey Wardens, and the New Pacific Order. Four days later, on Sunday, March 4, The NSIA was re-locked. On Monday, March 5, Anne Frank was similarly re-secured with a new password with the assistance of two MT Army soldiers and one sailor from The Red Fleet. An MT Army report including screenshots of telegrams received by Genesis Defense Project members was posted by Vippertooth33 to the regional message board of The MT Army on the morning of March 5. Due to the nature of these actions in the timeline outlined above, the Intelligence Directorate issues a strong recommendation that The Red Fleet not permit members of Genesis Defense Project to be present in any future operations or trophy regions.
  8. - Marx, The 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte - Engels, Letter to J.Bloch 1890
  9. SoL 2.5: Engels' Critique of Anarchism

    Except that you can replace the "legimate authority" by "legitimacy", and then have no more mention or hint of authority. Legitimacy comes from "lex", the law, which is recognized by all, as in "founded on the right". Authority has many origins (from "authenticity" to "judge"), and in the sense that Engels uses, the initial meaning is something like "power of command", with an author of the power. I'm not sure if Autoritätsprinzip has any link to the roman moral authority which is something the moral leader has. Anyway, we have to admit that 1/ Engels acception of the term is wider than the original 2/ this hypersemic (wider acception) term still conveys the idea of a personification of authority, even if Engels plays on the idea that when anarchists use it, they don't recognize it. I havent read the minute of the first Internationale, but I'd be interested in reading the oral joust between Bakunin and Marx (not only but also when they were both sexists toward a female delegate). What I can further say is that this text from Engels is mostly against individualist anarchists, for which autonomy of the individual is central, and therefore so is the anarchist confederate territory. But in the latter anarchists concepts, the role of the legitimacy was different and could (and has) permitted the existence of industries and planification. Surely not enough, as Makhno wrote a whole text about disciplin being central but not spread enough in the anarchist armies. Archinov's platform was a further recognition of the need of legitimacy to plan order (organization), no? Of course, this is the russian anarchist tradition, not the german one of Berkman, Buber, Mühsam and Landauer - which is fundamental to Rocker too, being german too (and I'm here willfully way too contemptuous of what they really wrote that is a bit more subtle and varies with the author). So this could sum it up: authority is the power to demand/command, when legitimacy is the acception of doing something collectively when all agreed that someone knew better, without having to relish on the use or possible use of power. Having said that, I now have to think of what it means after Bourdieu and being educated as having power on uneducated, but I'm not sure I really understand/endorse him anyway. I know I disliked some of what he had written about political news. Oh, before I forget (it's late, I'm tired and not sure to make any sense), Engels example of ships has been proved wrong by pirates, and I have, as a teacher, an authority on my students, but I have to build my legitimacy (and I'd even say my authority undermines my legitmacy).
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  11. Hi!

    Hi, I play the Decapole counsils (yeah, I made a typo, so I decide to make it a kind of multilingual state). I'm a bit more than 35, have sometimes no social grace and the instant after the contrary. I would define myself as a marxist libertarian, but of the early marxist period (I mean, still after he discovered the issue with property). Still readinf and discovering after years of engagement, because I'm not much of a thinker.
  12. Thanks. I guess whether it's anarchism depends on the answers.
  13. Easy to ask, hard to answer. By living in society, each of us depends on others for our day-to-day experience. We owe others for inventing the technology upon which we rely, for producing and transporting the things we consume, for teaching us, for so many other things. It is, therefore, legitimate that society can require some things from us in turn. The questions of what can fall under this category, how these things can be demanded, and who can do the demanding remain open under this framework. But in short, the interdependence between the individual and the group -- specifically that for which the individual owes the group -- is at least a potential basis for legitimate authority for the group to make enforceable demands of the individual. I should note that there is some parallel between what I have said and what Engels says: "Everywhere combined action, the complication of processes dependent upon each other, displaces independent action by individuals. But whoever mentions combined action speaks of organisation; now, is it possible to have organisation without authority?" I answer this question with a "no," given what I said previously -- co-dependence amongst people does, in my opinion, create situations where the group (properly understood as workers councils) has the legitimate authority to make certain demands upon the individual. In that sense, authority springs from organization in quite practically the way Engels goes on to explain.
  14. Well I'd say what I support looks like a government because I do think that these councils can justly/legitimately exercise coercion backed by threat of violence against a member of society. That's typically the hallmark ability of a government. I take it that most anarchists do not support any institution having this power. In this sense, I don't think that I fall under what Engels is calling "anarchists" here. But anyway, I was mainly concerned with Engels' definition of anarchy in context, but I think Freien's answer about context possibly makes sense. Much of the anarchist literature with which I am familiar is more recent, ie. Rudolf Rocker, for example.
  15. As opposed to looking like...?
  16. I think subordination here should be taken as the ability of the imposition of one will upon another (thus why it is presupposed). A will that wills for the and in place of the subordinated will; that is what subordination seems to imply, an order of rank of wills. I believe that one has to take into account the use of the word will in political philosophy: for example, you can find the theme of sacrificing the will of the individual to the state for something (eg safety) in a number of writers. Even if you think that these words don't fit this use in the way you understand, I suppose that you still have to go with the writer's use. But imo, Engels' definition is in line with most of the anarchist literature of the time. Now, about whether they are necessary, I would say that you have to take them as such by definition, since Engels seems to understand them as necessary to one another, as interdependent. But if you mean necessary in general, outside the text, then no, they don't have to be. Of course not all contemporary anarchists would oppose them in all cases (still most seem to), but because I believe that ever text should be seen in its historical context, I think that it does a very good job in offering a critique of anarchism, or more correctly, an answer to the anarchist criticisms of Marxism that motivated Engels in writing that piece. You are welcome 😘
  17. Although I am unsure if I should be considered an anarchist (I think not -- the kinds of workers councils I'd support look a lot like local governments), I do wonder if Engels is here committing an error by banking on an ambiguity on the word "authority," or even committing an equivocation. Do anarchists oppose the kind of authority Engels says they oppose? (And even if they do actually, do they have to to remain anarchists?) Engels says: "Authority...means: the imposition of the will of another upon ours; on the other hand, authority presupposes subordination." I am not convinced that these two "halves" of the definition are equivalent, that both are necessary, and that anarchists do oppose or must oppose both halves. (At least, not without further discussion.) Also, Freien never gets any love for posting these. Thanks, Freien
  18. Hello conrads

    Hello conrads, My name is Timo vdn Broek, I'm still really young in comparison to others on here. I'm 17 years old as of now, and I love to learn about politcal ideas and concepts. I decided to join NS because I heard about it on PnW and I love this community a lot more then PnW's because it is serious. My political views are as of yet unknown, I know that I'm leftist but what kind I still have to figure out. I've started reading some Engels and Marx. I hope to learn a lot about myself on here.
  19. Oh, a brief addendum -- The discord for the ILC organization includes a space to discuss GA and SC proposals and up for votes with members of the involved regions as well, so anyone who would like to see/participate should absolutely message me for a join link.
  20. Comrades, For some time, a coalition of regions has been working to create an organization to foster participation in the World Assembly called the Interregional Legislative Coalition. This coalition would include the DSA (a fellow NSLeft member), the SLU, and TVF, should these regions ratify the charter of the organization. This vote will determine whether The Internationale wishes to join. The charter for the organization can be found here, but I will briefly explain it below. The purpose of the ILC is to foster the creation of WA proposals from members of regions in the coalition, and allow us to make use of our combined WA experience to make our proposals effective and get them up to vote, and passed. The coalition also analyzes proposals up to vote in the WA and makes a recommendation. However, no member region is bound by that recommendation, and the WA delegate for TI is still expected to vote with the majority of WA voters in the region under most circumstances. The charter includes provisions for things like adding new regions to the coalition, ejecting regions from the coalition, amending the charter, etc. If there are specific questions about it or its implications, please post here. As always, VETO's do not count unless they are explained below. We were involved in the drafting of the charter, and several members of TI have been watching the discord where negotiations have occurred. If any of you would like to be added to that discord server, please let me know and I will add you such that you can see its chat history. We also held a short discussion about this earlier in the process. Voting ends February 22nd.
  21. - Etienne Balibar, The Philosophy of Marx
  22. I nominate myself to serve as Temporary Councilor of Activities.
  23. Following @Ayanka's resignation (to whom go our best wishes for his exams), the region has to find a new CoA. Nominations are now open
  24. Arguments I have noticed against Communism as a Communist

    Tankie here. The "atrocities" of Stalin and Mao are wildly exaggerated. As other comrades have said above, the Black Book is a burning garbage heap of propaganda. You can read up on many anti-communist myths here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gxwhh-vdeB--47HM-20cEVRC9eAMhrapbNf0Sk8VSOs/edit But long story short, declassified NKVD archives and UN statistics show that the "death toll" in communist countries is often far lower than claimed in the West. The inmate population of the gulags reached its height after WWII at 3 million, mostly including captured Nazis and collaborators, a large portion of which are released annually with very few deaths. It's understandable if you're sceptical of official Soviet statistics, but if the Soviets themselves didn't know how many people they killed, it remains to be seen how Western propagandists got their real numbers.
  25. I'm sorry to announce this, but I'm too lazy to continue it. I should have kept track of all of those who left TI and of all of those who have joined without telling me their home country. If anybody else wants to continue this, just tell me and I will give you the 2 .txt files you need
  26. The kind and beautiful @Zenganopoli did label the above the "first edition." Were you planning on doing this periodically?
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