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Hello, comrades! This is a thread for discussing NationStates issues and how to get your country's stats where you want them. To start us off, here's a couple of links:

This is also the place to talk about how to get your country's statistics where you want them. For example, the age-old question of how to have a powerhouse economy while abolishing capitalist property relations.

Have fun! :)

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The Issue

With military recruitment numbers down, there's been some discussion in civilian circles of relaxing 'sodomy' regulations in the armed forces in order to allow homosexuals to serve openly. However, with the occasional reports from the field of suspected homosexuals being beaten by their squadmates, some wonder if such measures are really appropriate for the notoriously conservative culture of United Peoples of Terran's military.

The Debate
  1. "There will never be room for gays in our God-fearing service," says Army Chaplain Orel Roze, absent-mindedly fingering the religious device of his office on his lapel. "I mean, uh, think about what it would do to morale. In the military men have to eat, live, and sleep in extremely close quarters and even consensual sexual relationships in the chain of command leads to leadership problems. It's just a natural extension of fraternization rules... and not only that, but our current policy is actually a service to the poor misguided souls, since it prevents any temptation to act on their given perversion... I mean preference."

     

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  • "God doesn't enter into it," says Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Ella Jamieson, head shaking. "Times are changing, and people are becoming more accepting of homosexuals. We have women in the military, and that surely leads to 'temptation', but for the most part everyone's quite professional about it. Allowing homosexuals to serve openly will increase our recruitment pool and actually simplify things; just look at the Navy: hundreds of horny men in steel boxes in the middle of the ocean for up to six months at a time... there has to be a reason that people volunteer for that, right?"

     

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  • "This coming from some pampered soul in the Chair Force," scoffs Commander Jake Utopia, calling in via satellite from aboard a destroyer. "Inter-service rivalries aside, ever read some of those ancient sagas about cities being besieged? Those ancient cultures had no problem with homosexuality; actually, it strengthened their resolve and spirit because they were literally fighting alongside their lovers, and anyone in the service will tell you it's all about the guy standing next to you. Now, what if--and this is just a hypothetical, mind--based on this and to counter years of discrimination, only homosexuals were allowed to serve?"

     

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  • "That's... interesting, but it doesn't really address the problem, does it?" asks Lance Corporal Freddy Goethe, part of your honor guard. "Let's look at it this way: only ten percent of the population is homosexual, right? No matter what, the majority will be heterosexual. We want homosexuals to serve, but there will always be a backlash against them. No regulation changes are needed if you just pen a policy where sexual orientation becomes a taboo subject in discussion--not like it's anyone's business to talk about their sexual interests in a professional military, right? This way homosexuals can serve, albeit quietly, and be happy, and the moral conservatives stay happy since the military is still 'officially' anti-gay. Of course, if anyone's pulled out of the closet, their career is instantly over, but that's the cost of compromise."

     

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  • "We still have a military?" questions your Minister of Peace, scratching his unruly hair and smelling none too vaguely of patchouli. "Man, I thought we got rid of those war pigs ages ago. Y'know, if you'd just listen to me and go with flowers instead of firearms, this whole gays-in-the-military thing wouldn't be such a buzzkill all the time. Hey, speaking of buzzes, I just got these mighty strong Bigtopian Blues from a guy I know. I'm on one right now and they are far OUT. You wanna expand your mind with me? No? That's cool too."

  • I looked all over the links and asked in the other forum but it seems it was the wrong one to ask for help regarding issues. So ill post it here, does anyone know the effects of this one?

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Option 2 if you want a strong military, last option if you don't.

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Earlier this week, I completely nationalized all industry and then decentralized economic power into workers' councils. This came with a small hit to my economic output, but today I've finally brought Caelapes's output back above its pre-revolutionary peak. :)

Caelapes, now a fully socialist nation, is in the top 4% of nations by economic output, top 10% for employment and average income, top 2% for average income of poor, and top 1% for public education.

The Communist International League's guide to economic development came in handy for this.

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My economy is currently 1. I've only been playing 3 days but any pointers as to how I'd improve this would be very, very welcome.

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On 9/27/2017 at 3:54 PM, Bundyland said:

My economy is currently 1. I've only been playing 3 days but any pointers as to how I'd improve this would be very, very welcome.

There are two schools of thought on this. The first is to go through an NEP route and transform your economy into a capitalist system, get your economy up to Frightening, and then nationalize industry to have a strong socialist economy.

The other way is to promote government initiatives to build the economy strictly through state projects without going through private enterprise.

I personally went with the NEP route and it worked fine.

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On 01/10/2017 at 8:38 PM, Caelapes said:

There are two schools of thought on this. The first is to go through an NEP route and transform your economy into a capitalist system, get your economy up to Frightening, and then nationalize industry to have a strong socialist economy.

The other way is to promote government initiatives to build the economy strictly through state projects without going through private enterprise.

I personally went with the NEP route and it worked fine.

I'm going as socially decent and progressive as possible, by design. My economy is 0 now but who knows? Maybe I'll do away with money altogether in the future(!) I'm fine with a dreadful economy, as long as it doesn't pull the regional average down too much.

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